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city in libya, in benghazi, but also along strategic interests, the grounds of strategic interest by saying to not have acted would have sent a message to other repressive leaders perhaps that they can stop uprisings through greater acts of violence and a set of refu e refugees would have upset the balance in asia and tunisia. >> i was just there with the secretary of state hillary clinton, i can tell you that it's very, very fragile that reform movement in both of those countries right now. i think what we just heard anderson from the president of the united states is the most, the clearest form of what we can call the obama doctrine, when to deploy u.s. military forces around the world. he laid out the case when it's in the united states interest to use military force, when it's in the united states interest not to use military force, and this
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is the example that he gave, this is going to be the precedent, what the united states has done now in libya, presumably given the explosion of unrest that's happening right now throughout north africa and the middle east, if there are similar circumstances that develop in other countries, whether in syria, or yemen and bahrain, and the potential of mass slaughter of civilians is there, the pressure will be on this president to go ahead and authorize what the president authorized in libya. and the greatest potential for the u.s., if there's a revolution, and if there's serious unrest in iran and the people are standing up against
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mahmoud ahmadinejad and the i ayatollahs take similar action as far as iran is concerned. i think we can call this the obama doctrine. >> and he also made it clear what the limits of this mission is as he sees it and the u.n. security councilman date that though the u.s. does want regime change in libya, does want to see gadhafi out, that is not the goal of this mission, the goal of this mission is to protect civilians, even though largest u.s. interests would like to see gadhafi on the move. i would like to show you the correspondents around the world. rick robertson in tripoli. we want to start with nic. you have been following forces as they have been moving west, but that westward movement has been made possible because of coalition air strikes and coalition attacks, has basically stopped now. what's the latest? >> reporter: that's right,
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anderson, it has and we basically saw the opposition moving forward fairly easily thanks to those air strikes in the area. but then today he began to hit the tribal pro gadhafi areas and that is where they're running into an entirely different dynamic. one small town they went into which is around 60 miles to the east of gadhafi's hometown, opposition fighters were driven out of there by armed residents. they say that these residents were armed by gadhafi himself, but they went in to search these homes and then they were fired on. as they began their withdrawal, their retreat because they claim they did not want to fire back on the civilian population an cause collateral damage, they say they came under a hail of gun fire, and this is a very disturbing development here because it now adds this dynamic whereby which the opposition is not only going to have to fight gadha gadhafi's military, it is going
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to have to fight on civilians as well. and in this case, when this battle turns into a street by street fight, what does the coalition do? that's a big question. >> nic robertson in tripoli, were residents of tripoli actually able to hear president obama's speech on television there and what kind of a reaction do you think it will get? >> reporter: it wasn't broadcast on state television, but plenty of people here pick up satellite channels like cnn so you can guarantee plenty of people will have been watching it. i think for moammar gadhafi, he's going to be feeling like he dodged a bullet here if the mission isn't too broaden to a regime change, he knows essentially he's bought himself more time. but this is a deeply suspicious leadership that already thinks and calls this a crusader campaign to bring back colonialism to the country, to divide the country, to split off the oil profits from this country, to take them away from the leadership, so he would be looking and examining this, i
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imagine, with a view to figuring out, okay, i have bought some more time, how can i hold on? what am i going to be able to do here? what can i get away with? can i defeat the civilians? he's already been making the case that if the coalition were to continue its campaign, as was witnessed today outside of his hometown, because gadhafi and his government have handed out so many weapons to tribes loyal to them, he's been counting on these tribes to rise up and face the rebels when they come, that essentially these would be in his words, in the government's words, civilians. so if the coalition were to target these civilians, that would obviously weaken the coalition's position. this is something th-- for gadhafi, i think we can expect him to feel he's bought some time and we can expect him to do some recalibrating, i don't
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think we'll be seeing him backing down and arguing for regime change himself. >> in a city like cert, he has armed them in the town that the opposition forces went into today and had to flee from, what does the coalition do? will they bomb in their areas if they are in fact just armed civilians and not gadhafi troops? how aligned are the coalition forces on nato to continue bombing in areas around there so they can continue to advance? >> reporter: they are very heavily reliant on that and they realize the fact that they could not have come this far were it not for those air strikes, but as we have heard many of the opposition leaders say there is one ground rule and that is that
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no bombings are to take place in civilian areas which is why and when this battle does move to this type of street to street fight that we could potentially be seeing, there's not going to be much room for those air strikes to take place. that's where the opposition is going to have to figure out some sort of a military strategy, so they can in fact if they intend to defeat gadhafi's military, defeat those other civilians that rise up to fight. it has to realize that it lacks the weapons, it lacks the experience and it lacks the military expertise. they do not understand or enforce the basics of a military operation. there's absolutely no command and control and there is no discipline, anderson. >> and nic, very briefly over the weekend, a very disturbing incident, a woman burst into the hotel where you and others had been staying saying that she had been raped for gadhafi forces.
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explain what's happened to her since? >> reporter: this is a woman who was brave enough to try to tell her stories to the international journalists here in the city. it's the first time we have seen somebody come forward who was willing to talk against the regime. the regime here tries to stage manager pretty much everything we say to show us that everything supports moammar gadhafi, this was the first time somebody was speaking out against them. they dragged her away with a bag on her head. they were taking her to a hospital, then they said they were taking her to the police station. then they said she had been released. but they completely den graded her, calling her a prostitute, negating her claims against the regime. but suddenly this evening we're seeing on facebook and coming
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from the east of the country her family holding an engagement party with a man from her tribe, this is essentially the family saying that her honor is intact, her tribe saying that her honor is intact and saying to gadhafi, we stand with this lady and we stand against you moammar gadhafi, this is a very strong statement from her family and from the tribe. rallying behind her to save this woman's honor. >> let's get reaction right now from john mccain, the republican senator from arizona, he's the ranking member of the armed services committee, he was the republican presidential nominee only two years ago. did this president, senator mccain, meet the challenge that he's faced over the past several weeks successfully? >> i think that the first part of his speech i thought was excellent and he laid out the reasons why it was important to intervene and what would have happened in benghazi. and many of us that are
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convinced that if we had taken that action three weeks earlier, just declaring a no fly zone, it would have had a similar affect. but the fact is he made a strong case and then he got into the issue of american leadership and emphasis on how america was going to step down. and he mentioned a couple of times that gadhafi must step down. and then he made a very puzzling comment and that was, regime change by force would be a mistake. gadhafi must have been somewhat comforted by that. it was then at least to some degree a counter to the president's statement, gadhafi must go, and if we end up with a situation where gadhafi reclaims power, we could see what we saw after the first gull war, a
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stalemate, a no fly zone and lasted for two years and didn't bring saddam hussein out of power. the reason why we wage war is to achieve a policy that we state. the present policy is that gadhafi must go. and i think there's every chance if we keep the pressure on, that gadhafi will be thrown under the bus. >> the libyan people themselves will successfully get rid of gadhafi. he suggested that, yes, the military mission that the u.n. and the nato, the arab leg have authorized is limited to protecting civilians and the no fly done and all of that, but he said that the u.s. goal still is that gadhafi must go, in nonmilitary means, political means will be used to try to achieve that goal. >> first of all, he didn't say by by, when he said gadhafi must go, he said -- it's clear that
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we are on the side of the rebels in this conflict, we're wiping out gadhafi's armor and we are preventing them from having the advantage in the air, in fact they stopped flying as soon as we declared the no fly zone. so it's clear that we are acting in the battlefield on the side of the rebels and that we can by keeping up the sustained pressure and movement, that gadhafi can be removed. if we tell gadhafi, you're not going to be removed by no, sir, that's very encouraging to gadhafi. i believe the rebels are succeeding because we negated the airpowers of gadhafi and we're on the way to success. but regime change is not going to take place by force, i certainly can't agree with him. he's a danger to the world and the locker nger he stays in pow
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the more dangerous he becomes. >> this clip underscore what is i'm calling the obama doctrine on the use of force, he didn't want the u.s. to act alone. listen to this. >> real leadership creates the conditions and coalitions for others to step up as well. to work with allies and part nev neres so they pay part of the cost and to see that human dignity are upheld by all. that's the kind of leadership we have shown in libya. >> isn't the operation better off not just a unilateral u.s. operation, but the fact that france and britain and the nato alliance, even the arab league, some members like qatar and the united arab emirates are on board. >> first of all, if it hadn't been for the french and the
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british we may not have gone in under any circumstance. i am grateful to the secretary of state. what we really doesn't emphasize is that the united states leaves and there are times when we have to act alone. and there are many other times where we have the time and the luxury of assembling coalitions. when president reagan attacked tripoli, he didn't ask anybody, we didn't assemble a coalition. and when we went into panama, we didn't assemble a coalition. a lot of times the -- for the greatest force for good. >> senator mccain, thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you. >> senator john mccain is the ranking member of the senate armed services committee. >> when we come back, john king
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that's new video just released today, a tomahawk missile being launched yesterday. the defense department released that. 109 tomahawks have been fired on libya during the course of this whole operation, but the number has been drastically reducing in the last hour, only six tomahawks had been fired, before that 192 by the united states and 7 by other coalition forces namely britain. looking at where the military operation standing right now. >> general clark, thanks for being with us, the question about where do we go going
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forward, you heard the president explaining his policy. we want regime change, but we're not -- this is where we were the day before the coalition attacks started. gadhafi forces had come to the east. that's where we were then. then a few days in, you see a little bit started to change. this is where we are today and the green being the opposition, they have taken back these key cities here, but as they go this way, as they head this way toward cert, what does the coalition do, when the u.n. document, the resolution says their mandate is to stop violence against civilians? if civilians in these towns loyal to gadhafi fire on the coalition forces and the coalition fires back, what is the coalition's mandate? >> i think the mandate is go
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after the tanks that gadhafi is using. with respect to something like serta, they're going to have to talk to the people in serte want. it doesn't have to be resolved by guns. if think cannot reach that dialogue, what does the coalition then do? it's mandate is to stop the violence. does it shoot on the opposition? if the opposition has picked up tanks and rifles and they are using them against civilians which are pro gadhafi, does the coalition have a resolution to stop them? >> i don't think they're going to do that. they have already pulled back and they don't want to cross that line. i think the opposition is going
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to be very careful about this. what the opposition would like to see is, they would like to see the coalition tighten the noose on gadhafi. they'll find a way to bypass and get to misrata. they'll try to put their coalition where they don't have to act against the bulk of gadhafi forces. >> i want to bring something else down, you were the nato supreme allied commander, when you look at a map like this, you have the operation centers that are set up in it taaly and set here and there. the united states steps back, yes it uses some capabilities to help and support r you now confident there's a command structure in place that will bring about an organized and coordinated response within the mandated resolution and within the political debate that has happened within nato? >> i don't think that's an issue, i think that structure is already there, there is a linkage between the u.s.
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commands structure and the nato command structure and as the president said we'll continue to provide command and control and intelligence and other things. all of the backbone of this, and it's really about putting an allied chain of command through nato so that you bring other political leadership in and others have to take responsibility for the actions. yes, we'll still be engaged here and i'm not concerned about the technicalities of command and control, i am concerned about the issues you're raising. but to go back to this, john, what the president said is, there's a certain line at which the military mission cuts off and above that, to get to the goals, you got to do other things. it's about establishing momentum by the military mission, then using international law, diplomacy, the isolation. the opposition says that down in here are where the mercenaries are coming through, right in here in the south. so they would also like -- they would like to see gadhafi squeezed all the way around. i have heard stories of algerian
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pilots and syrian tank commanders. i can't verify this, but this is what you're hearing there. so the purpose of the opposition supported by the coalition is to create an inevitability, that causes people to talk rather than fight. >> we'll continue this conversation a little bit later in the program. back to wolf. >> thanks very much guys, when we come back, our own eliot spitzer is going to be speaking with fareed zack kkaria, he's g his views on the president's speech. more of our coverage on the president's address to the nation after this.
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we knew that if we wanted -- if we waited one more day, benghazi, a city nearly the size of charlotte would have -- it was not in our national interest to let that happen. >> president obama making the case, not just on moral grounds to intervene in libya, but also on national interest grounds. eliot, it was interesting to hear the president really try to define the mission which may surprise people that regime change is not part of this mission. >> that has been our question, is -- then it is jarring for people to hear that is not the
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military mission. you heard senator mccain come back to that point as well. if that is our mission, let's declare success and move on. let me bring in fareed zakaria, cnn's analyst of all things international. fareed this was in many respects a very subtle speech, there is a beginning of a doctrine about how president obama views the use of force, how do you see this? >> i agree entirely, it was actually an important speech. it was quite carefully and cleverly constructed. it had a humanitarian angle, a strategic angle. but at the heart of it what obama is saying is that there are places in the world where the united states does not have vital national interests, where we have not been attacked, but we have limited interests and we're going to try to find a way to have some kind of limited military response. we're going to do some of the things ourselves, we're going to insist that allies do other
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things, we're going to insist that we have an international mandate, so what he's suggesting is that given the limited circumstances, the arab league asking for help, the u.n. endorsing it, the united states could not have done nothing. but that does not mean that he's going to accept the idea that this is an open ended commitment. what john mccain was suggesting is frankly strikes me as a very dangerous argument, that in a place where we have clearly limited interests, clearly nonvital interests, the united states and the president should put an open ended policy of military escalation and say we will do whatever it takes to get moammar gadhafi out of office, that is frankly the way we got in conflicts like vietnam, in order not to be humiliated we couldn't back down. obama was saying we have a limited military mission, and he intends to keep it limited. the reference to iraq i think was very pointed and clear in
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that respect. >> the distinction you're -- core interests where the united states would go in unilaterally with military force and in a more diminished con text he referred to interests and values. and he said in those contexts we will support the international group here, the coalition that we have in iraq. i had a series of questions that i thought the president needed to answer, the first one was why are we there, i agree with you, he answered that brilliantly. the second is how do you define success? it's not so clear to me in terms of the humanitarian purpose that he articulated for the military. how do you define success and how do you know when we leave? how do you define those guidelines? >> this is the tricky part about any limited military intervention. he will need to find a deaf
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situatideaf -- definition of -- elimination of moammar gadhafi and all of his cronies, if you wait for that, if we continue to escalate, until we reach that mission, that is precisely what causes -- you get into a lot of trouble. it's fair to say that you can argue we will continue to press the libyan regime, but that doesn't mean we need to keep ratcheting up the military option. the military is just one tool that we have to enforce this policy. >> fareed, here's the problem i have, and i think it is a very subtle, slightly defensive speech perhaps, but as long as gadhafi is in power, isn't the military threat going to continue for the libyan population? as long as gadhafi is there, the military will say we can't leave because there will be slaughter, bloodshed.
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h unfortunately even after this speech, significant confusion about how far we go and until when we stay. >> remember, eliot, after the interventions in bosnia and kosovo, which were both regarded as successes, slobodan milosevic was still in power. some level of success allows you to say you have some level of success and continue to press. the most important part of the speech, not the most important, but the news making part about the speech is what most people have missed, which is that the president of the united states said that we are going to assist the coalition. so in other words, there is a policy now to shift the balance of power and to assist those against gadhafi in all kinds of
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ways, the air campaign is just one part of it. and we will continue to press him. gadhafi has many resources, but if an international coalition stays firm, it is not that expensive to maintain the no fly zone, if the libyan opposition is helped, it will throw him and his cronies off kilter. >> one certainly hopes that happens, one certainly hopes gadhafi is gone in short order, if gadhafi is not gone and we continue to pull back militarily, that is very dicey for the president to withdraw until we have gotten that moment of clear success, the elimination of gadhafi. back to wolf in d.c. >> eliot, you're almost certainly right, most people realistically won't believe this is a success from the u.s. standpoint if gadhafi remains in power in tripoli. let's get some more reaction from capitol hill, our senior congressional correspondent dana bash is standing by. what else are you hearing?
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>> reporter: we're hearing certainly from republicans who supported the idea of a no fly zone at the beginning but were concerned that the president hadn't defined the message and mission are not satisfied. specifically house speaker john boehner. last week he kind of gave voice and specifics to the questions that many people here in congress in both parties had, questions that they had. and i'll tell you that again, he is not satisfied. a quote from his spokesman that we just got, he said unfortunately americans waited a long time to get few new answers, whether it's the american resources that will be required our standards and objectives for engaging the rebel opposition or how this action is consistent with u.s. policy goals, the speech failed to provide americans much clarity to our involvement in libya. there you have it, the house speaker saying his questions weren't answered from the republican side. another thing is before this speech i spent some time talking to senators of both parties and what i heard especially from
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democrats, and that is that they really wanted to hear, what's the end game, what's the exit strategy and that's something we haven't heard from democrats yet but i certainly expect them to say that they didn't hear that from the president tonight and probably are not happy about it. >> there's going to be a lot of testimony from administration officials on capitol hill, presumably they'll have some more answers to these questions. ed henry is our senior white house correspondent, he's still over there at ft. mcnair at the national defense university. the secretary of defense, the secretary of defense, the joint chiefs, they're going to have closed door hearings tomorrow and open door hearings wednesday. that's the way of letting congress know what the u.s. strategy is, right? >> they're going to go to capitol hill to continue to make that case and part of what they're going to be talking about, interesting that you really put your finger on it wolf at the top of this hour, is that the president for the first
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time in his 2 1/2 years in office laying out a doctrine saying i refuse to -- slaughter and mass graves and he would not be afraid to use military action, swiftly, decisively and unilaterally. for someone who was an anti-war candidate now laying it out that starkly, is question ahead is going to be whether he can follow up on its, what if violence continues in syria, what about darfur, where the united states will be pressured to asked even before this speech. they're going to take these on a case-by-case basis. >> a lot of people are dying in the ivory coast and the congo in africa. what's going to be the moral structure of helping out there, these are questions that remain to be answered. anderson back to you. >> the president tried to explain also tonight that the cost of this terms of the u.s.
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involvement is going to go down dramatically as the operation is handed over to nato. when we come back, we're going to go to pentagon and look at the cost of this battle so far. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] ten people are going to win the chevrolet, buick, gmc or cadillac of their choice. push your onstar button and you could be one of them. even if you're not an onstar customer. ♪ just push your blue button and tell the advisor you want to enter the onstar push on sweepstakes.
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and welcome back to our continuing live coverage of president obama's remarks on libya. i want to bring in our correspondents, ivan watson who's in cairo.
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ivan, one of the things that this president tried to make clear tonight is what strategic interests or national interests the united states had getting involved militarily in libya and one of the things he cited out of the three main national interests was concern about large numbers of refugees leaving egypt. there are some 1 million egyptian workers who have been working in libya for years now leaving libya and going back into egypt and that destabilizing this fragile revolution that's occurred in egypt, same thing in tunisia. what kind of an impact would that have had in egypt if all those workers had returned? >> reporter: well, we already saw some of the impact, not only egypt but also on libya's western border and in tunisia with floods of 15,000 interests of day, streaming across the border and that was weighing heavily on the economy, on the
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local community there, putting serious strains on society, not only here in egypt, but also in tunisia, and it's very interesting that the president used this argument partly to help defend the international in libya, saying that we have to protect what he described as inspiring up risings in the eastern countries, these revolutions from the spillover, potential spillover effect that we were definitely starting to see in the first weeks of this conflict in libya. these two countries, both libya and tune naisia are both in fra states and their economies have been battered in recent months, the last thing either of these countries would need as they're doing the very hard work now of trying to create new democratic systems out of the ashes of dictatorsh
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dictatorships, the worst thing they would have to deal with is major refugee exits on their borders. >> it's obviously a very fragile situation in egypt right now, the military is in control, what's the latest in the move toward democracy and the move toward elections and what i hear is a growing power of the muslim brotherhood? >> reporter: well, the egyptian military, a ruling military council is now in charge of this country and just today it made an announcement of a new system of laws for registering political parties. it said that it's planning to try to hold parliamentary elections in september, presidential elections sometime after that. it declared that parties could be registered, but they would be banned if they tried to form themselves on religious, sectarian or geographic basis and that may have potentially repercussions on some of the islamist movements, particularly
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the muslim brotherhood which is perhaps the best organized movement in this country after the overthrow of hosni mubarak. more than 18 million people who participated in that vote reform package was overwhelmingly passed, but there are some serious concerns, particularly among some of the secular revolutionaries, the young people that we saw in tahir square that some of the religious leaders were lobbying in favor of the referendum using the mosques as a pulpit to do that, anderson and that was raising some serious concerns about where these muslim parties are going forward, how powerful they are in the wake of
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mubarak's overthrow on the political scene which has completely transformed egypt. >> the elections will be sooner than some of the more secular parties, those who were involved in the revolution wanted in order to beef up democratic institutions, the concern on their part is that quicker elections would benefit more organized groups like the muslim brotherhood. mohammad, let's start off with syria, a government crackdown sending military troops on to the streets in a number of towns, what kind of an impact has that had? >> reporter: well, anderson, this is really royaled the government of syria, they have not known how to deal with it. it's had a huge impact there, we have seen syrian president come out with concessions, spokeswoman for the information ministry there has said that the emergency law that's so hated by the protesters there has been
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lifted, she hasn't specified when but it will be lifted. what started out as a protest movement that was localized with people in the south of the country asking for reforms, for economic incentives has really grown, has really coalesced into a movement in terms of people who have come down from a crackdown. and now it's grown into a movement more of people asking for regime change because the government now say they will implement reforms the people there are seeing what kind of powers that have. and the witnesses we speak to on the streets say they don't care what kind of violence they face in the days ahead because syria is known as an authoritarian regime. they say what the government is offering right now is too little, too late. >> mohammad, thanks very much. ivan watson as well from cairo, we'll have a lot more on the
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latest on "a.c. 360." i talked to a man, a human rights worker who's really risking his life to tell us what he's seeing in the hospitals and in the streets. let's go back to wolf down in d.c. >> look forward to it, anderson, thanks very much. let's go over to the pentagon right now and talk about the costs of this war. it's only be a few days, chris lawrence is our pentagon correspondent. already well into the hundreds of millions of dollars for u.s. taxpayers, chris? >> that's right, wolf, you break it down, they fire now close to 200 tomahawk missiles, but the cost of that alone is between 250 million and $300 million. by some estimates it costs about $100,000 an hour to keep a fighter jet in the air. now all that said, at some point you degrade gadhafi's forces enough that you sort of run out of targets.
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and the u.s. can sort of take from peter to pay paul using money from later in the pentagon's budget, later in the year to cover the costs now. but there are some costs. the combat pay for some of the troops, the cost of all that fuel that's being used on these planes, that's got to be paid now. some people have estimated the cost of this could come up to $1 billion. and that's why senators like richard lugar said there needed to be an accounting of some of these costs before the mission was launched. >> he said $33 billion in frozen libyan assets in the united states, in his words, this money does not belong to gadhafi or to us, it belongs to the libyan people, we will make sure they receive it. this notion that perhaps some of the costs of this war would come from using some of that $33 billion, the president here seems to suggest no way, it's
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going back to libya, not going to be going back to the american taxpayer to pay for this war. >> even if he did make that argument, it's an argument that we heard back in the iraq war, that iraq's oil would help pay for some of the iraq war, that didn't really pan out either. so take it for what it's worth. >> it's going to be uncle sam. few very much. when we come back, the politics of all of this, did the president achieve what we wanted to do, convince the american public that what he has announced and is doing in libya is the right thing. stand by. ♪ [ male announcer ] sit down. it's ok. you've got preparation h with the only cream that gives you maximum strength pain relief. and relieves swelling, burning, and itching. preparation h. doctor recommended -- by name.
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nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries. the united states of america is different. and as president, i refuse to wait for the images of slaughter and mass graves before taking action. >> president obama explaining the mission and the goals of that mission about an hour ago tonight in washington, d.c. i'm joined by david gergen, gloria boringer and jessica yellin. did the president do what he needed to and specifically i'm interested in your thoughts on him very clearly saying that they are not attempting to get rid of gadhafi by military
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means. >> he was very clear on that, anderson. three quick points, one, the president came in to this with less than half the country -- there's been universal views tonight on this program, he did a very good job of explaining why we went in. where you go from here, how do you get this done, it's still murky. people were unclear about his goals, i think it's still going to be unclear. and the last point, what wolf is calling the emerging obama doctrine. on that, i thought the president made it very clear that unless we are directly threatened, he's only going to use force in extremely limited circumstances. horrific violence, a broad coalition, a u.n. mandate, calls from the arabs, the capacity to get it all done. all of that seemed to me to suggest that he's not going into syria, he's not going into
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bahrain, he's not going into a lot of these other places. that's a cautious use of power, it's a far cry from what stirred american hearts when john kennedy said we'll pay any price, bear any burden for liberty. >> gloria, we already heard from john mccain on capitol hill, taking issue with what the president said about trying to get rid of gadhafi just purely through nonmilitary means? >> right, we did and i think what's interesting about what david was saying is that the president said when our national interests and our values are threatened, we're going to intervene in some way, even when we are not directly threatened. and so there's this question, and the white house has been asked it over and over and over again, which is does this set a precedent? and tonight, i think the president was very cogent and very convincing, but he really
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didn't answer the question about, well, what about is humanitarian needs in syria? what about the humanitarian issues in bahrain? aren't they of more strategic interests or yemen to the united states in a way? so, you know, i think this president left a lot open that needs to be answered. and maybe, anderson, when you're not in the driver's seat, when you're part of a coalition, there's a certain kind of ambiguity that we have to learn to accept that we haven't accepted before when we were unilaterally intervening. >> jessica, we have already heard before the last several days in many critics on the republican side. how do you think this speech is going to play? >> the speech had a lot of nuances in it or interests. we were directly threatened, but our interests were at stake. we did what we said we were going to do, but we still have more to do. that kind of language allows the republican critics to say that
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the president hasn't been clear. but who's aware are the independents. 44% approve, 41% disapprove and they're not necessarily hearing a more persuasive argument from republicans who are very divided in their criticism. some of the 2012 possibly contenders are saying i was for a no fly zone, but not this way, we believe in standing up for freedom and democracy, but not at too high a cost. so because they don't have a necessarily defined argument, so the president -- right now the rebels seem to be making progress and tanking americans, then the president politically can come out ahead. it depends on events on the grounds. >> events on the ground are kind of unclear now, the opposition forces have kind of stopped outside serte where coalition civilians that have been armed by -- in a case where there are armed civilians who are willing
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to fight against the opposition forces. >> not clear, the president will do fine as long as gadhafi looks like he's leaving, if he hangs in there for six months, things are going to get rough politically for the president. >> anderson, you could have a lot more in one hour on "anderson cooper 360." we'll be watching that, john king is here, when all is said and done, though, if gadhafi remains in power, even if he's in tripoli and just around that capital, the president of the united states is not going to be able to declare victory in libya. >> he won't be able to declare victory in libya, he won't be able to declare that his goal of gadhafi must leave has been met. but if tripoli is largely in opposition control, then the president can at least claim a stalemate that did not lead to continued humanitarian crisis. what happens here? what happens here? can the united states in its private consultations with the
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opposition say do not get involve in hand to hand street combat. don't force the coalition's hand. then the question is how does the president carry this forward. you mentioned iran, syria is unfolding, bahrain, the sketch of the obama doctrine we got. we didn't get a full pamphlet, it will be tested by events in a very volatile region. >> the president of the united states certainly did not anticipate only a few months ago that this whole region would be exploding right now in ways that very few of us could have envisioned. >> it is remarkable, and that's why the president, there's not a one size fit all solution, you see violence in syria, the syrian government shooting its own people. what does the president do if this continues. we have seen more violence over the weekend in yemen. so the president trying to give a broad outline today, if you're for freedom we'll be with you,

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